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Members,
The voting results for this motion are below.

AG.22.06 Approval for Minimum Sized Ring with Obstructions

Motion failed (0-9) – Approve: None. Disapprove: Busquets, Byrne, Creelman, Gann, Gerken, Larson, McCabe, Roberts, Wesen. Abstain: None. Non-voting: None.

  • Comment from Director Creelman: If the ring size is so much smaller it would lessen course times and other dimensions. Compared to courses that run in a ring 100 x 100, it would not be equivalent which, in my opinion, would cheapen their titles.

 

Motion by Liaison Byrne to approve the following recommendation from the Agility Committee.

 

Committee Recommendation: 6-2022 Motion about how to approve agility trial where rings are at minimum with obstacles

Motion by Jan Niblock to approve this motion because there are many areas, especially in the Northeast and Midwest that have to hold trials indoors. This is due to the weather or the fact that there are very few outdoor places to rent. Seconded by Sandra Katzen.

Results of Committee Vote: Approve: 9. Disapprove: 1. Abstain: 2. Non-Voting: None.

 

Current Wording:

2.2.1 Arena/Ring Dimensions

The minimum usable course area for an Agility trial ring is 8,000 square feet (743 square meters).* Although the 8,000 square feet (743 square meters) usable area is the absolute minimum size acceptable for agility, a 12,000 square foot (1115 square meters) or larger ring (e.g., 100′ x 120′ (30.5 m x 36.6 m), 110′ x 110′ (33.5 m x 33.5 m), 95′ x 130′ (29 m x 39.6 m), or 90′ x 135′ (27.4 m x 41.2 m), etc.) of clear, unobstructed ring surface, is highly recommended wherever feasible. The trial area shall be of a non-slip surface, preferably grass, which will provide a safe and cushioned footing for the dogs and handlers competing.

*In exceptional cases the minimum usable course area may be 7,200 square feet (669 square meters). For areas 7,200 to 7,999 square feet only wingless jumps with 4-foot (1.2 m) bars may be used, and the host club must have a dog walk with 8-foot (2.4 m) planks available for the judge to use, if desired. Otherwise, a 12-foot (3.6 m) dog walk may be used by the judge only if course design places dog walk along the longest side of the arena. Course areas this small should be the rare exception when no larger, more suitable facilities can be found, and only if the aforementioned wingless 4-foot jumps are used. In all areas, the minimum width of the area must be 60 usable feet wide.

 

APPENDIX A: Equipment Specifications

Contact Obstacles

Obstacle Height Ramp Width Ramp Length Contact Zone
A-Frame 5’ – 5’6” (1.5 m – 1.7 m)

3’ – 4’

(91.4 cm – 121.9 cm)

9’

(2.7 m)

42”

(1.1 m)

Dog Walk

36” (8’ ramp/planks)

46” – 54” (12’ ramp/planks)

(91 cm – 137.2 cm)

12” (+/- 1”)

(30.5 cm (+/- 2.5 cm))

8’ or 12’

(2.4 m or 3.7 m)

36” – 42”

(91.4 cm – 106.7 cm)

Teeter-Totter 24” (61 cm)

12” (+/- 1”)

(30.5 cm (+/- 2.5 cm))

12’

(3.7 m)

36” – 42”

(91.4 cm – 106.7 cm)

NOTE: When using a dog walk with 8’ (2.4 m) planks, a lower dog walk height such as 36” (91.4 cm) should be used. When using a dog walk with 12’ (3.7 m) planks, a higher dog walk height such as 46” – 54” (1.2 m – 1.4 m) is used. Additionally, a dog walk with 8’ (2.4 m) ramps should have an 8’ (2.4 m) center ramp and a dog walk with 12’ (3.7 m) ramps should have a 12’ (3.7 m) center ramp.

 

Proposed Wording:

2.2.1 Arena/Ring Dimensions

The minimum usable course area for an Agility trial ring is 8,000 square feet (743 square meters).* Although the 8,000 square feet (743 square meters) usable area is the absolute minimum size acceptable for agility, a 12,000 square foot (1115 square meters) or larger ring (e.g., 100′ x 120′ (30.5 m x 36.6 m), 110′ x 110′ (33.5 m x 33.5 m), 95′ x 130′ (29 m x 39.6 m), or 90′ x 135′ (27.4 m x 41.2 m), etc.) of clear, unobstructed ring surface, is highly recommended wherever feasible. The trial area shall be of a non-slip surface, preferably grass, which will provide a safe and cushioned footing for the dogs and handlers competing.

*In exceptional cases the minimum usable course area may be 7,200 square feet (669 square meters). For areas 7,200 to 7,999 square feet only wingless jumps with 4-foot (1.2 m) bars may be used, and the host club must have a dog walk with 8-foot (2.4 m) planks available for the judge to use, if desired. Otherwise, a 12-foot (3.6 m) The dog walk may should be used by the judge only if with the course design placing it the dog walk along on the longest side area of the arena. This could be along the side or in the middle of the arena. Course areas this small should be the rare exception when no larger, more suitable facilities can be found, and only if the aforementioned wingless 4-foot jumps are used. In all areas, the minimum width of the area must be 60 usable feet wide. If the ring dimensions meet the minimum but has obstacles (poles or other unusable areas) that cause it to be less than the minimum square footage, then the Club needs to have these rings approved by the Agility Committee for use: 1) a dimensionally accurate drawing showing any posts, supports or other irregularities with the dimensions of obstructions and dimensions of the placement of them within the ring. 2) Photos showing all sides and obstructions of the ring must be submitted. Then after receiving approval, it will be sent with the rest of information to judges that are hired when this facility is used.

 

APPENDIX A: Equipment Specifications

Contact Obstacles

Obstacle Height Ramp Width Ramp Length Contact Zone
A-Frame 5’ – 5’6” (1.5 m – 1.7 m)

3’ – 4’

(91.4 cm – 121.9 cm)

9’

(2.7 m)

42”

(1.1 m)

Dog Walk

36” (8’ ramp/planks)

46” – 54” (12’ ramp/planks)

(91 cm – 137.2 cm)

12” (+/- 1”)

(30.5 cm (+/- 2.5 cm))

8’ or 12’

(2.4 m or 3.7 m)

36” – 42”

(91.4 cm – 106.7 cm)

Teeter-Totter 24” (61 cm)

12” (+/- 1”)

(30.5 cm (+/- 2.5 cm))

12’

(3.7 m)

36” – 42”

(91.4 cm – 106.7 cm)

NOTE: When using a dog walk with 8’ (2.4 m) planks, a lower dog walk height such as 36” (91.4 cm) should be used. When using a dog walk with 12’ (3.7 m) planks, a higher dog walk height such as 46” – 54” (1.2 m – 1.4 m) is used. Additionally, a dog walk with 8’ (2.4 m) ramps should have an 8’ (2.4 m) center ramp and a dog walk with 12’ (3.7 m) ramps should have a 12’ (3.7 m) center ramp.

 

Comments/Rationale: In many places, the only buildings available to hold trials indoors are at the minimum ring size but have obstructions. But they can still hold an approved ASCA trial.

Many of the issues are with buildings at 7,200 sq ft (669 square meters) and due to the fact that they have structural supports either around the edge or in the ring which take away space. But courses can be designed using tunnels around the structural supports in the center which does not take away space or placing equipment away from the structural supports on the edge.

This motion is needed due to the fact that we want to have agility trials in these areas where there is no larger facility or outdoor space available. If we do not make those exceptions for clubs who cannot find an 8,000 sq ft (743 square meters) facility, then we will not have trials in those areas. Do we really want to lose more agility trials? We lose enough trials now to competition. There might be more clubs that could put on agility trials if we were a bit more practical and evaluate the buildings based not just on size but on the fact that they could hold an approved ASCA agility trial.

Affected: Agility Clubs, Judges, and Course Reviewers.

Effective Date: Immediately upon Board approval.

 

Kalla Jaco

Executive Secretary, Australian Shepherd Club of America

asca.execsec@gmail.com

6091 E. State Hwy 21, Bryan, TX 77808 | (979) 778-1082

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Members,
The voting results for this motion are below.

AG.22.05 Clarify Responsibility for Incorrectly Set Jumps/Tires on Course

Motion failed (0-9) – Approve: None. Disapprove: Busquets, Byrne, Creelman, Gann, Gerken, Larson, McCabe, Roberts, Wesen. Abstain: None. Non-voting: None.

  • Comment from Director Creelman: The responsibility of the correct jump heights being set is the responsibility of the exhibitor. If there is an error, the exhibitor should have the correction made before the dog leaves the start line.

 

Motion by Liaison Byrne to approve the following recommendation from the Agility Committee.

 

Committee Recommendation: 4-2022 Motion to clarify responsibility for incorrectly set jumps/tires on courses

Motion by Nicole Watts to approve a revision to the Agility Rulebook clarifying responsibility for incorrectly set jump bars and tires on courses. Second by Sandra Katzen.

Results of Committee Vote: Approve: 11. Disapprove: 1. Abstain: None. Non-Voting: None.

Dissent from Committee Member Chet Katwyk: This motion addresses a complaint that was brought before this committee where a judge quoted a tradition/old rule, “The handler is responsible for the bars being set correctly.” It was alleged that the judge said it as if it is a current, written rule. That was seen as unfair by the handler making the complaint. This is the first and only complaint about this that I am aware of while I have been on this committee. Personally, I understood the complaint to be that the judge quoted the tradition as a rule, not that the tradition was unfair.
There have not been any previous complaints — other than this one (again, that I am aware of) — and members and judges have not voiced any issue with this tradition. Neither members nor judges have asked for a rule change that this motion is directed towards. There is no evidence that this motion is wanted, so it should not be approved. Also by not consulting the judges, we don’t know how this motion will be received by them.
Furthermore, this motion far exceeds what the original complaint is about which was the first run after a height change. The motion also includes all bars, whether set too high or too low. Another thing to consider is this could open up the opportunity for cheating to occur as a handler could claim a knocked bar was set at the wrong height. At the very least this motion should be rejected and sent back to the committee because of the clause that includes bars set “too low” are not faulted when the dog knocks them.
The other venues have not gone in this direction. ASCA will be the only agility venue, by tradition or by rule, that does not have the handlers be responsible for making sure the bars are set correctly before starting their run. I am encouraging you to vote no on this motion.

 

Current Wording:

9.2.2 Obstacle Faults

  1. Displaced Jump Pole, Bar or Tire: 5 faults – A dog is faulted a five fault penalty if it displaces the top jump pole/bar or tire on a jump obstacle. If a dog makes no attempt to jump and displaces the jump poles/bars or tire, knocks over the jump stanchion, or displaces the jump wings, then the dog will be faulted for a Failure to Complete (20 faults).
  2. Re-Attempting an Obstacle: Elimination – If the handler elects to re-attempt an obstacle after earning a Failure to Complete penalty (on that obstacle), the judge shall eliminate the team (on the basis of training) and they will have Maximum Course Time (MCT) to finish the run.

 

Proposed Wording:

9.2.2 Obstacle Faults

  1. Displaced Jump Pole, Bar, or Tire: 5 faults – A dog is faulted a five fault penalty if it displaces the top jump pole/bar or tire on a jump obstacle. If a dog makes no attempt to jump and displaces the jump poles/bars or tire, knocks over the jump stanchion, or displaces the jump wings, then the dog will be faulted for a Failure to Complete (20 faults).
  2. Incorrectly set jump bar/s or tire: 0 faults –If any bar is set incorrectly in a course in which the jumps are otherwise correctly set, and the handler is told by the ring crew to “go,” no fault will be incurred if the dog displaces that jump. This is the case whether the jump is too high or too low. If the dog displaces or avoids an incorrectly set jump, the handler may request a re-run without penalty or take SCT. All other faults will stay in place.
    If the handler is told by the ring crew to “go,” and the dog begins a run where all the jumps are set at the incorrect height (too low or too high), the handler may request a re-run without penalty, regardless of how much of the course the dog has completed. But all other faults will stay in place.
  3. Re-Attempting an Obstacle: Elimination – If the handler elects to re-attempt an obstacle after earning a Failure to Complete penalty (on that obstacle), the judge shall eliminate the team (on the basis of training) and they will have Maximum Course Time (MCT) to finish the run.

 

Comments/Rationale: There has been some confusion over what a judge should call for a run where the bars are set incorrectly because there was no rule in the rule book which states what the call should be. This motion is to clarify what the call should be if this happens.

Affected: Judges, Clubs.

Effective Date: Immediately upon Board approval.

 

Kalla Jaco

Executive Secretary, Australian Shepherd Club of America

asca.execsec@gmail.com

6091 E. State Hwy 21, Bryan, TX 77808 | (979) 778-1082

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Subject:

BOD Motion Results: OB.22.04 Clarify Hands Language

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Date:

3/28/2022, 10:36 AM

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Members,
Following are the voting results for this motion.

OB.22.04 Clarify Hands Language

Motion carried (9-0) – Approve: Busquets, Byrne, Creelman, Gann, Gerken, Larson, McCabe, Roberts, Wesen. Disapprove: None. Abstain: None. Non-voting: None.

Motion by Liaison Roberts to approve the following recommendation from the Obedience Committee.

Committee Recommendation: Clarify Hands Language. Motion by Laurie Rubin that we add the words “off leash (free)” to the first sentence of Section 2.19 Hands. This change will also make sure the language on hands and arms in Section 2.19 complements but does not conflict with the language in Novice Section 3.6 Heel on Leash and Figure Eight and Beginner Novice Section 8.6 Heel On Leash. They both state the hands must be “held in a natural position, or in one of the positions defined in Chapter 2, Section 19 Hands.” Seconded by Betsy Coleman.

Results of Committee Vote: Approve: 6. Disapprove: 1. Abstain: 1. Non-Voting: 3.

Current Wording:

2.19 Hands

In exercises in which the dog is required to heel, one of the options listed shall be followed: (1) The handler’s arms and hands shall move naturally at his/her sides while in motion and hang naturally at his/her sides when stopped, or (2) the handler’s right hand and arm shall move naturally at his/her side while his/her left hand shall be held against and centered in front of the body in the area of the waist. The left forearm shall be carried, as much as possible, against the body. In any of the above situations, the hands and arms may be adjusted during the fast portion of the exercise, in order to maintain balance…

Proposed Wording:

2.19 Hands

In exercises in which the dog is required to heel off leash (free), one of the options listed shall be followed: (1) The handler’s arms and hands shall move naturally at his/her sides while in motion and hang naturally at his/her sides when stopped, or (2) the handler’s right hand and arm shall move naturally at his/her side while his/her left hand shall be held against and centered in front of the body in the area of the waist. The left forearm shall be carried, as much as possible, against the body. In any of the above situations, the hands and arms may be adjusted during the fast portion of the exercise, in order to maintain balance…

Comments/Rationale: The rationale for this motion is to recognize and allow for the fact that some handlers in the Novice classes commonly hold the leash with hands in positions other than the two positions allowed for off leash heeling.

Affected: Exhibitors and judges.

Effective Date: Immediately upon Board approval.

Kalla Jaco

Executive Secretary, Australian Shepherd Club of America

asca.execsec@gmail.com

6091 E. State Hwy 21, Bryan, TX 77808 | (979) 778-1082

Check us out on our Website, Facebook, and YouTube Channel

Kalla Jaco

Executive Secretary, Australian Shepherd Club of America

asca.execsec@gmail.com

6091 E. State Hwy 21, Bryan, TX 77808 | (979) 778-1082

Check us out on our Website, Facebook, and YouTube Channel

Members,
The voting results for this motion are below.

SD.22.13 When Scoring of Obstacles Begins on Course D (Revised)

Motion carried (9-0) – Approve: Busquets, Byrne, Creelman, Gann, Gerken, Larson, McCabe, Roberts, Wesen. Disapprove: None. Abstain: None. Non-voting: None.

 

Motion by Liaison Gann to approve the following recommendation from the Stockdog Committee.

 

Committee Recommendation: When scoring of obstacles begins on Course D

Motion by Dan Sanderson to clarify when scoring of an arena obstacle begins on Course D when using a take pen. Seconded by Terri Jones.

Results of Committee Vote: Approve: 9. Disapprove: None. Abstain: None. Non-Voting: None.

 

Current Wording:

12.1.1 Course D Arena

  1. Take Pen: The take pen does not have to be the same enclosure as the re-pen as long as the procedure is consistent for the entire trial and both pens are at the same end of the arena
  2.         All take pens must be placed on the outside of the arena, along the fence opposite obstacle two. If the pen is on the side of the arena, it must be as close to the back fence as possible, on the opposite end of the arena from obstacle two, with consideration for the advanced handler line taken into account
  3.         The take pen gate for Cattle, Sheep/Goats, and Ducks/Geese must be no less than 8’
  4.         The take pen gate must be closed after the stock is released into the arena
  5.         The take pen size and location must be stated in the sanctioning request form. The Duck/Geese arena take pen size must be a minimum of 8’ x 8’ and a maximum of 16’ x 16’. For Cattle and Sheep/Goats, a take pen must be of adequate size to allow the dog to remove the livestock safely. The livestock size, number, and demeanor will determine the necessary size of each take pen. The livestock should not take up more than 1/3 of the take pen. It is suggested that the minimum size be no less than 250 square feet with a maximum size of 900 square feet
  6. If the Judge, in consultation with the Course Director, decides the take pen is not of adequate size and construction to be safe for the dog or livestock, the Cattle, or Sheep/Goats will be released into the arena from the take pen
  7.         If the livestock is released into the arena, the Advanced Handlers must position themselves at the Advanced Handler line on the take-pen side of the line; wherever they feel it is best to take control of the livestock to move it up the middle of the arena. The handler is free to move after the dog has been sent as long as it is on the take pen side of the Advanced Handler Line. Open and Started Handlers may position themselves wherever they feel it is best to take control of the livestock to move it up the middle of the arena. Open Handlers’ Line is in effect for the Open Division

 

Proposed Wording:

12.1.1 Course D Arena

  1. Take Pen: The take pen does not have to be the same enclosure as the re-pen as long as the procedure is consistent for the entire trial and both pens are at the same end of the arena
  2. All take pens must be placed on the outside of the arena, along the fence opposite obstacle two. If the pen is on the side of the arena, it must be as close to the back fence as possible, on the opposite end of the arena from obstacle two, with consideration for the advanced handler line taken into account
  3. The take pen gate for Cattle, Sheep/Goats, and Ducks/Geese must be no less than 8’
  4. Scoring for Obstacle 1 will begin when the last head of livestock clears the plane of the take pen gate, whether or not the gate is closed
  5. No Course Points may be earned on Obstacle 2 until the take pen gate is closed
  6. The take pen size and location must be stated in the sanctioning request form. The Duck/Geese arena take pen size must be a minimum of 8’ x 8’ and a maximum of 16’ x 16’. For Cattle and Sheep/Goats, a take pen must be of adequate size to allow the dog to remove the livestock safely. The livestock size, number, and demeanor will determine the necessary size of each take pen. The livestock should not take up more than 1/3 of the take pen. It is suggested that the minimum size be no less than 250 square feet with a maximum size of 900 square feet
  7. If the Judge, in consultation with the Course Director, decides the take pen is not of adequate size and construction to be safe for the dog or livestock, the Cattle, or Sheep/Goats will be released into the arena from the take pen
  8. If the livestock is released into the arena, the Advanced Handlers must position themselves at the Advanced Handler line on the take-pen side of the line; wherever they feel it is best to take control of the livestock to move it up the middle of the arena. The handler is free to move after the dog has been sent as long as it is on the take pen side of the Advanced Handler Line. Open and Started Handlers may position themselves wherever they feel it is best to take control of the livestock to move it up the middle of the arena. Open Handlers’ Line is in effect for the Open Division

 

Comments/Rationale: In 2020 there was a lot of confusion at the Finals/Nationals as to when scoring for the first obstacle was to begin. The same confusion occurred in 2021 with half of the finals Judges judging it one way while the other half judged it another. By clearly stating that the gate must be closed before scoring can begin on the second obstacle, we will have addressed the issue of a take pen gate not being closed prior to working the first obstacle.

Affected: ASCA Stockdog contestants and ASCA Judges.

Effective Date: June 1, 2023.

 

Kalla Jaco

Executive Secretary, Australian Shepherd Club of America

asca.execsec@gmail.com

6091 E. State Hwy 21, Bryan, TX 77808 | (979) 778-1082

Check us out on our Website, Facebook, and YouTube Channel

Members,
The voting results for this motion are below.

SD.22.14 When Scoring of Obstacles Begins on Course E (Revised)

Motion carried (9-0) – Approve: Busquets, Byrne, Creelman, Gann, Gerken, Larson, McCabe, Roberts, Wesen. Disapprove: None. Abstain: None. Non-voting: None.

 

Motion by Liaison Gann to approve the following recommendation from the Stockdog Committee.

 

Committee Recommendation: When scoring of obstacles begins on Course E

Motion by Dan Sanderson to clarify when scoring of an arena obstacle begins on Course E when using a take pen. Seconded by Terri Jones.

Results of Committee Vote: Approve: 9. Disapprove: None. Abstain: None. Non-Voting: None.

 

Current Wording:

13.1.1 Course E Arena

  1.        Take Pen: The take pen does not have to be the same enclosure as the re-pen as long as the procedure is consistent for the entire trial and both pens are at the same end of the arena
  2.         All take pens must be placed on the outside of the arena, along the fence opposite obstacle two. If the pen is on the side of the arena, it must be as close to the back fence as possible, on the opposite end of the arena from obstacle two, with consideration for the advanced handler line taken into account
  3.         The take pen gate for Cattle, Sheep/Goats, and Ducks/Geese must be no less than 8’
  4.         The take pen gate must be closed after the stock is released into the arena
  5.         The take pen size and location must be stated in the sanctioning request form. The Duck/Geese arena take pen size must be a minimum of 8’ x 8’ and a maximum of 16’ x 16’. For Cattle and Sheep/Goats, a take pen must be of adequate size to allow the dog to remove the livestock safely. The livestock size, number, and demeanor will determine the necessary size of each take pen. The livestock should not take up more than 1/3 of the take pen. It is suggested that the minimum size be no less than 250 square feet with a maximum size of 900 square feet
  6.         If the Judge, in consultation with the Course Director, decides the take pen is not of adequate size and construction to be safe for the dog or livestock, the Cattle, or Sheep/Goats will be released into the arena from the take pen
  7.         If the livestock is released into the arena, the Advanced Handlers must position themselves at the Advanced Handler line on the take-pen side of the line; wherever they feel it is best to take control of the livestock to move it up the middle of the arena. The handler is free to move after the dog has been sent as long as it is on the take pen side of the Advanced Handler Line. Open and Started Handlers may position themselves wherever they feel it is best to take control of the livestock to move it up the middle of the arena. Open Handlers’ Line is in effect for the Open Division

 

Proposed Wording:

13.1.1 Course E Arena

  1.        Take Pen: The take pen does not have to be the same enclosure as the re-pen as long as the procedure is consistent for the entire trial and both pens are at the same end of the arena
  2.         All take pens must be placed on the outside of the arena, along the fence opposite obstacle two. If the pen is on the side of the arena, it must be as close to the back fence as possible, on the opposite end of the arena from obstacle two, with consideration for the advanced handler line taken into account
  3.         The take pen gate for Cattle, Sheep/Goats, and Ducks/Geese must be no less than 8’
  4.         Scoring for Obstacle 1 will begin when the last head of livestock clears the plane of the take pen gate, whether or not the gate is closed
  5.         No Course Points may be earned on Obstacle 2 until the take pen gate is closed
  6.         The take pen size and location must be stated in the sanctioning request form. The Duck/Geese arena take pen size must be a minimum of 8’ x 8’ and a maximum of 16’ x 16’. For Cattle and Sheep/Goats, a take pen must be of adequate size to allow the dog to remove the livestock safely. The livestock size, number, and demeanor will determine the necessary size of each take pen. The livestock should not take up more than 1/3 of the take pen. It is suggested that the minimum size be no less than 250 square feet with a maximum size of 900 square feet
  7. If the Judge, in consultation with the Course Director, decides the take pen is not of adequate size and construction to be safe for the dog or livestock, the Cattle, or Sheep/Goats will be released into the arena from the take pen
  8. If the livestock is released into the arena, the Advanced Handlers must position themselves at the Advanced Handler line on the take-pen side of the line; wherever they feel it is best to take control of the livestock to move it up the middle of the arena. The handler is free to move after the dog has been sent as long as it is on the take pen side of the Advanced Handler Line. Open and Started Handlers may position themselves wherever they feel it is best to take control of the livestock to move it up the middle of the arena. Open Handlers’ Line is in effect for the Open Division

 

Comments/Rationale: In 2020 there was a lot of confusion at the Finals/Nationals as to when scoring for the first obstacle was to begin when working Course D. The same confusion occurred in 2022 with half of the finals Judges judging it one way while the other half judged it another. Course E has the same layout and confusion as found in Course D, so correcting Course E is the sensible thing to do. By clearly stating that the gate must be closed before scoring can begin on the second obstacle, we will have addressed the issue of a take pen gate not being closed prior to working the first obstacle.

Affected: ASCA Stockdog contestants and ASCA Stockdog judges.

Effective Date: June 1, 2023.

 

Kalla Jaco

Executive Secretary, Australian Shepherd Club of America

asca.execsec@gmail.com

6091 E. State Hwy 21, Bryan, TX 77808 | (979) 778-1082

Check us out on our Website, Facebook, and YouTube Channel

Members,
The voting results for this motion are below.

SD.22.15 When Scoring of Obstacles Begins on Course F (Revised)

Motion carried (9-0) – Approve: Busquets, Byrne, Creelman, Gann, Gerken, Larson, McCabe, Roberts, Wesen. Disapprove: None. Abstain: None. Non-voting: None.

 

Motion by Liaison Gann to approve the following recommendation from the Stockdog Committee.

 

Committee Recommendation: When scoring of obstacles begins on Course F

Motion by Dan Sanderson to clarify when scoring of an arena obstacle begins on Course F when using a take pen. Seconded by Terri Jones.

Results of Committee Vote: Approve: 9. Disapprove: None. Abstain: None. Non-Voting: None.

 

Current Wording:

14.1.1 Course F Arena

  1.        Take Pen: The take pen does not have to be the same enclosure as the re-pen as long as the procedure is consistent for the entire trial and both pens are at the same end of the arena
  2.         All take pens must be placed on the outside of the arena, along the fence opposite obstacle two. If the pen is on the side of the arena, it must be as close to the back fence as possible, on the opposite end of the arena from obstacle two, with consideration for the advanced handler line taken into account
  3.         The take pen gate for Cattle, Sheep/Goats, and Ducks/Geese must be no less than 8’
  4.         The take pen gate must be closed after the stock is released into the arena
  5.         The take pen size and location must be stated in the sanctioning request form. The Duck/Geese arena take pen size must be a minimum of 8’ x 8’ and a maximum of 16’ x 16’. For Cattle and Sheep/Goats, a take pen must be of adequate size to allow the dog to remove the livestock safely. The livestock size, number, and demeanor will determine the necessary size of each take pen. The livestock should not take up more than 1/3 of the take pen. It is suggested that the minimum size be no less than 250 square feet with a maximum size of 900 square feet
  6.         If the Judge, in consultation with the Course Director, decides the take pen is not of adequate size and construction to be safe for the dog or livestock, the Cattle, or Sheep/Goats will be released into the arena from the take pen
  7.         If the livestock is released into the arena, the Advanced Handlers must position themselves at the Advanced Handler line on the take-pen side of the line; wherever they feel it is best to take control of the livestock to move it up the middle of the arena. The handler is free to move after the dog has been sent as long as it is on the take pen side of the Advanced Handler Line. Open and Started Handlers may position themselves wherever they feel it is best to take control of the livestock to move it up the middle of the arena. Open Handlers’ Line is in effect for the Open Division

 

Proposed Wording:

14.1.1 Course F Arena

  1.        Take Pen: The take pen does not have to be the same enclosure as the re-pen as long as the procedure is consistent for the entire trial and both pens are at the same end of the arena
  2.         All take pens must be placed on the outside of the arena, along the fence opposite obstacle two. If the pen is on the side of the arena, it must be as close to the back fence as possible, on the opposite end of the arena from obstacle two, with consideration for the advanced handler line taken into account
  3.         The take pen gate for Cattle, Sheep/Goats, and Ducks/Geese must be no less than 8’
  4.         Scoring for Obstacle 1 will begin when the last head of livestock clears the plane of the take pen gate, whether or not the gate is closed
  5.         No Course Points may be earned on Obstacle 2 until the take pen gate is closed
  6.         The take pen size and location must be stated in the sanctioning request form. The Duck/Geese arena take pen size must be a minimum of 8’ x 8’ and a maximum of 16’ x 16’. For Cattle and Sheep/Goats, a take pen must be of adequate size to allow the dog to remove the livestock safely. The livestock size, number, and demeanor will determine the necessary size of each take pen. The livestock should not take up more than 1/3 of the take pen. It is suggested that the minimum size be no less than 250 square feet with a maximum size of 900 square feet
  7.         If the Judge, in consultation with the Course Director, decides the take pen is not of adequate size and construction to be safe for the dog or livestock, the Cattle, or Sheep/Goats will be released into the arena from the take pen
  8.         If the livestock is released into the arena, the Advanced Handlers must position themselves at the Advanced Handler line on the take-pen side of the line; wherever they feel it is best to take control of the livestock to move it up the middle of the arena. The handler is free to move after the dog has been sent as long as it is on the take pen side of the Advanced Handler Line. Open and Started Handlers may position themselves wherever they feel it is best to take control of the livestock to move it up the middle of the arena. Open Handlers’ Line is in effect for the Open Division

 

Comments/Rationale: In 2020 there was a lot of confusion at the Finals/Nationals as to when scoring for the first obstacle was to begin. The same confusion occurred in 2021 with half of the finals Judges judging it one way while the other half judged it another. By clearly stating that the gate must be closed before scoring can begin on the second obstacle, we will have addressed the issue of a take pen gate not being closed prior to working the first obstacle.

Affected: ASCA Stockdog contestants and ASCA Stockdog judges.

Effective Date: June 1, 2023.

Kalla Jaco

Executive Secretary, Australian Shepherd Club of America

asca.execsec@gmail.com

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